tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3168370005753091919.post2452736371824140988..comments2023-05-14T03:47:41.244-07:00Comments on Jana's Jive Talkin': What Would You Do?Jana Allardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11339441184005532875noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3168370005753091919.post-18656097328104547522008-06-04T22:55:00.000-07:002008-06-04T22:55:00.000-07:00Mark - this child must not have any structure. Th...Mark - this child must not have any structure. That is sad.<BR/><BR/>Carol - I think the mother needs to concede to the church and cooperate with their offers of closed circuit viewing.<BR/><BR/>Karen - it is a sad situation, but I feel the mother has failed somewhere. The worst of handicapped kids can often be helped if given structure, discipline, and lots of love from the moment of birth on.<BR/><BR/>Karla - I have a strong feeling the mother has failed this child. She should know him well enough to be able to predict his outbursts and what causes them. We have had several handicap people who ride our Sunday School busses and we have never had a problem with any of them. If shown proper care, they will generally cooperate. This is a sad story to me because I think the boy could probably do better if his mother worked more with him instead of fighting the church.Jana Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11339441184005532875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3168370005753091919.post-91613529688371474622008-06-04T20:39:00.000-07:002008-06-04T20:39:00.000-07:00When I first began reading this article I thought ...When I first began reading this article I thought I knew what my response would be. We attend Sunday evening services at Bro. Bernard's church here in Austin, and they have several autistic children in their church. There are times when they might be considered "disruptive" but people have learned to overlook it. Several people have actually been brought to truth because this church accepts their autistic children. This is why I thought I would know my response. <BR/><BR/>My first reaction was that the church should accept them and not keep them from attending. One family in particular here was "not allowed" to attend several churches in town because of their son. Then they found New Life UPC. <BR/><BR/>Anyway... it seems to me that this child is more out of control than the autistic children I've been in contact with. My oldest son had an autistic boy in his class through elementary school and it was fine. These children are actually VERY smart in most cases and can be reasoned with when the parents are aware of their "triggers." The parents we know understand their child and watch very closely to make sure they don't reach the breaking point to where they are uncontrollable. There are times when they have a "meltdown" - but the parents are generally aware of when it's coming and remove them from the situation. It seems that maybe the mother in this article has not learned these protective measures for her child.<BR/><BR/>If anyone is interested - one of the mothers in Bro. Bernard's church is available to teach seminars on how to work with autistic children in Sunday School.Karlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01949142969758548040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3168370005753091919.post-32645679290736920722008-06-03T23:12:00.000-07:002008-06-03T23:12:00.000-07:00I don't think allowance to church services is at t...I don't think allowance to church services is at the center of the mother's actions although that is her statement. I believe she isn't acting rational due to the day to day circumstances under which she lives. It has taken her to a dimension of hostility. If her son is that disruptive in church, think of what she faces with him every day. It is heartbreaking but the church can only do so much, and must protect its congregation. Sad, but true.<BR/><BR/>PS: Just think, we get all worked up when a baby cries too long during service before the mother takes them out.Karen J. Hopperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186451381794256334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3168370005753091919.post-51092414825576770562008-06-03T17:07:00.000-07:002008-06-03T17:07:00.000-07:00I feel for the mother too, but I don't think it's ...I feel for the mother too, but I don't think it's fair to make the other members have to put up with the boy's behavior. If the boy is acting out as described, then some other arrangements should be made.Carol Connellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09047457937682850399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3168370005753091919.post-80315824469201923862008-06-03T15:09:00.000-07:002008-06-03T15:09:00.000-07:00I agree, the church appears to have tried but boy ...I agree, the church appears to have tried but boy is out of control.Mark Pryorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00277252015395958134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3168370005753091919.post-78398505804379675332008-06-03T14:17:00.000-07:002008-06-03T14:17:00.000-07:00Helen - it does seem like the church has made grea...Helen - it does seem like the church has made great efforts to accommodate this boy and the mother has refused every effort the church has made for her son. I agree with you. This mother feels she is being punished by the church but what about all the other parishioners?!? They are being punished to endure this boy's behavior.Jana Allardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11339441184005532875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3168370005753091919.post-72274121005711420172008-06-03T14:02:00.000-07:002008-06-03T14:02:00.000-07:00I sympathize with the mother but only so far. The...I sympathize with the mother but only so far. The Catholic Mass is important because of the Eucharist. The parish should make alternate arrangements for the boy to receive the Eucharist but not allow him in the service. The leaders have tried, but he is clearly out of control. No one should have to worship or try to worship under these conditions. The boy's behavior will only get worse.DeadMulehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01209584859435270113noreply@blogger.com